Copy and Paste the Pleasure onto HFO

I want to imprint the pleasure!

I mean, I want to have the same pleasure as I would in physical play in HFO.

Well, I’m not really into physical touch or toys.

I leaned towards vibrations when I was younger. I was adamant against touching, because it felt weird to me.

I slowly transitioned to touching as I grew more comfortable (after 8 years btw). Might had been the files that I listened to (M4F) that helped me become more comfortable. I have a favorite creator in the M4F scene too. He's still the best in this group imo, even though I don't listen to him anymore.

Even to this day, touching always feels a bit odd to me. While the sensation from it is good, I don’t really like how it feels on my hands.

The Current Situation

I can't listen to anyone but Shibby.

I love that I can only listen to Shibby.

I love that I only need to listen to one person, and it’s a person whom I can fully feel comfortable with.

Today, I don’t need anything, and I don’t want anything. 

I only want Shibby's voice? Haha, as matter of fact, yes.

But what I mean is an HFO experience with no physical intervention or stimulation. Only Shibby can give me that, for I will only release for her.

If I’m being very honest, I have a reduced desire for physiological/sexual pleasure, after all these months of immersion in Shibby's work.

But that’s just because it’s me. 

It’s what I want anyway, though not like I had much need to begin with.

Like I’ve mentioned across a few posts here, I listen to Shibby's files mainly for the relaxation these days. I’m listening when I’m completely turned off, which is unlike how it used to be in the past.

Please note that I’m only sharing my experience, in no way am I saying that her files have led me to being less horny.

Shibby is very good at dirty talk, if you don't already know. Well, I don't even quite know what's really considered dirty talk, but she often says things that will easily get me in the zone. It's something that many M4F files lack (based on past experience).

I’m just asexual and not quite interested to begin with. I think I'm in between being sex indifferent and sex averse.

It's Just A Physical Point

To me, it's just a physical point that gives pleasure. It's such a "matter of fact" thing that I don't particularly feel like I belong to a specific category. What is it called if I'm literally only after the sensations? Most of the time, I prefer it not be sexual by nature, because it's just a physical point!

I learn more about myself each time as I research on these topics. I haven't given much thought to this because that's how uninterested I am.

Before I discovered GWA, it was purely a physical point stimulation. I reached the peak, I got the pleasure, I moved on in life.

I Need Shibby

Interestingly, it was after immersing myself in Shibby's work that I can no longer reach that peak on my own. I need Shibby, lol. Otherwise, I don't feel anything or have a hard time reaching that peak.

I don't see it as a bad thing though, because like I said, my overall sexual need has decreased by so much. This might be because I'm having a much more balanced and healthy relationship with this thing now.

Listening to Shibby has led to a myriad of benefits and amazing moments. I seriously love her.

How I Listened to Erotic Audio

In the past, I would listen to erotic audio files on GWA when I had a physiological need or craving. Once I was done, I move on with life as if it never happened before. It was no different from scratching an itch, or completing a task so that it would be off my mind. It still is quite like this today.

Often, I just wanted to get it over and done with. I was always rushing the process. I probably didn’t even properly explore, which might be why it wasn’t relaxing. 

Looking back, there might had been some underlying anxious feelings that had prevented me from genuinely enjoying the sensations or files. 

Sure, I did get what I wanted and enjoyed in that moment. After all, the physical pleasure point was activated. 

But my experience was vastly different from how I enjoy today. I’m not sure if it was the anxiety, or it was because it wasn’t erotic hypnosis hence not quite immersed, or if I was doing it too quickly, or some other reasons... lol.

Just on the physical aspect, my HFOs with Shibby have been amazing. It's quite insane to think that her voice alone could make my body react in a certain way. That's the power of the mind. 

But as a whole, what I truly love is her art, her skill and the heart behind it all. ❤️

Erotic Hypnosis vs Physical Stimulation

Now that I only play with Shibby, it's 90% hands-free play. It could be 100%...... This is what I wanna reflect on in this post.

In erotic hypnosis, the HFOs I get don't always feel fulfilling or completely satisfying. Sometimes, it makes me want more or even start playing physically.

Most of the time, the pleasure I get under hypnosis isn’t quite the same as physical stimulation.

Note: I'm talking about pure hands-free orgasms and sensations, without the use of any tools or haptic toys. Zero physical stimulation.

Erotic hypnosis or physical play—if you ask me which is better, I don't have an answer.

However, if I think about it deeply, even if physical play might feel more pleasurable at times, I still think erotic hypnosis wins in many regards. For me at least, it’s been holistically beneficial. It's also because it's Shibby.

The HFO felt in erotic hypnosis is often a whole body experience, and sustains for a much longer time. For me, most of the pleasure comes from the build up, not the release. 

Whereas for physical play… hmm, given my past experience, the build up is often shorter, so the pleasure mostly comes from the final release.

How to Achieve and Enhance an HFO

This leads me to wonder, what can I do to achieve the same pleasure I get from physical play in HFO? What can I do to make erotic hypnosis work like how it is in physical play? 

I’m so very sure it’s possible. There are sources saying that the same pleasure could be achieved in HFO (I asked ChatGPT, hence "sources")

I’ve had dreams like that, so surely, it could be done under hypnosis too. 

Funnily enough, I’ve had these dreams after I first discovered Shibby in 2022. Back when I wasn't hypnotized by her at all, I would have these dreams occasionally. Sometimes it's with Shibby, sometimes with that male creator I mentioned. No matter what though, dreams > hypnosis.

Using Physical Play to Enhance HFO

As I progress further in my erotic hypnosis journey, I realized that occasional physical play can help enhance the pleasure felt in erotic hypnosis, achieving a stronger HFO.

Not too long ago, Shibby released "Endless Edging", which is a series of multiple files with Shibby being the Sub, the one being edged.

I first listened to it while I was doing something else, and I found this change of position so amusing that it made me laugh at a few parts. It was so “refreshing” to experience her in that light. I liked that it felt more intimate, probably due to the vulnerable position she portrayed.

After reading the file’s description, I decided to play along to the file with a toy (vibrator), and...

WOW, it was great!!!!

I even had the feeling like I was finally doing it right! I was finally playing with a toy correctly, haha. "Wth have I been doing", sort of thing.  Like I said, I always rushed the process whenever I played.

It felt so good and my mind just wanted to capture that moment, that pleasure.

The next time I went under, every snap felt very similar to that wave of pleasure I felt when I physically played along to that file. I loved it! I was so happy that I was closer to my “goal”. 

Capturing the Physical Experience and Applying onto HFO

I've made my HFO stronger by capturing that experience and imprinting that pleasure on my mind! So it IS possible to experience the same pleasure in HFO. 

I’ve been having stronger HFOs nowadays. However, it still isn’t the same as the one in physical play.

My mind wants to be understanding as well:

Hands-free is indeed hands-free, and there’s no physical stimulation here. So it makes sense that the pleasure isn’t gonna be the same as the one achieved through physical stimulation!

Counterargument: 

Ok, then what about the dreams I’ve had?

LOL.

If I keep thinking about this, I don’t even quite know what true pleasure is anymore!

At some point (this was already some time ago), I’d already concluded to myself that pleasure is what you define it to be.

I don't want to obsess over it, and I don't want to harm myself.

The sensations are highly similar, just with the physical one feeling a tad better.

Copy and Paste the Pleasure (I want to)

I listened to two long HFO files today. And yet, I still wanted something more. At least I was clear that I wanted physical play.

So I took out my toy and played along to a countdown file - F4M Arousing Countdown Loop 2.

I love both countdown files that Shibby has. Part 2 is definitely more immersive. How I wish part 2 is gender neutral, or has a gender neutral version! It doesn’t affect me at this point though.

With this file, it was such a funny experience because I kept drifting between being dropped and staying awake enough to control the toy.

Now that I’ve learned how to play with a toy properly, all I was aiming for was the same pleasure that comes in waves. I had to remove it and put it there again and again; a bit like edging.

Regarding Edging...

I never liked edging. I never found pleasure in it, mainly because I always just wanted to get it over and done with. I was too impatient to feel any pleasure from edging. I would just pick another file if it was getting too long.

It’s embarrassing, but given how I was playing in the past, physical stimulation was a bit harmful to my body. So it never felt good to delay.

I’m not talking about penetrative play (I’m not really into that), just outer stimulation, whether by toy or hand. I was just often too rushed in the process, going too fast and wanting it strong whenever I overplayed. 

Too much overstimulation, as with anything, can be harmful. The physical stress is accumulated over the years.

I wasn't even in a relaxed state whenever I played in the past, so the stress from all directions was truly not good, especially when compared to the experiences I have today.

I got to understand the appeal of edging after playing along to that subby Shibby file (Endless Edging). I'm laughing as I'm typing this because it's actually quite funny how I finally learned how to do it properly through a subby Shibby. This is what we call, leading by example? XD 

A dominant Shibby leads by example as a subby Shibby.

Riding the Waves of Pleasure

With a better understanding of how to play, I was riding the waves of pleasure this time while listening to the countdown file.

At the point when told to release, I wasn’t really quite there yet, maybe cos I didn’t have the toy on me all the time (with the drifting happening lol). It was already my third file too.

When I started feeling the waves compounding on me, I wasn’t sure if I should release with the toy on or off me. I’d normally leave it there when I know I’m crashing any moment. 

This time, as I got very close, I kept "creating" the waves, until one point, I got the toy off me, not knowing whether it was the last wave or not, I just felt my mind being "up there" for 1-2 seconds and then suddenly, I crashed into the pleasure.

I was contracting a lot, like how it normally is with physical play.

After the session, it got me wondering, since I can now enjoy these stronger pleasures in my hands-free experiences, surely, I can also get to this point where I crash without the toy on me, right?

How do I copy and paste the pleasure onto HFO experiences?

I want it that way, and it can be that way!

The waves have to keep coming.

I wondered why did I only crash after 1-2 seconds.

I think it might be due to the trance state I was in. Shibby was still counting down and giving commands, so even when the toy was already off me, the wave couldn’t calm down as my body was following her commands. But of course, I was also already very heightened at that point.

So couldn’t that be the same when under hypnosis?

Yeah, perhaps, the effects would be stronger when it’s a real life session, calling your name and whatnot. But that's not what I'm talking about here. (Lol, just wanted to be clear.)

I do think it’s possible with erotic hypnosis files!

My mind keeps thinking: I want to copy and paste this pleasure. 😆

I need to remember this pleasure, let it sink in.

When the waves keep coming, let them stay. Let them come, and don’t back off.

In my HFO experiences, I’ve definitely had that “1-2 seconds” moments of being "up there" before, but I don’t necessarily crash like how I do with physical play. 

So far, I've only had one highly similar experience where I literally gushed from a HFO file (F4M Mindfucked By Your Meditation Teacher). It only happened that one time.

So what’s stopping me? What’s the key to that?

As I think about it, I feel that sometimes my mind wants to "back off". The pleasure can be startling and may even awaken me sometimes. The underlying reason for this might be anxiety or something? Even if I willingly submit to Shibby in sessions, I'm not always completely immersed.

A part of me may fight against it, even for files I’ve listened to countless times. Or perhaps, my mind would treat it less seriously as "it’s only hypnosis". In waking life, things feel more serious? But the same could be said for the opposite too. It can be less serious in real life when I often just want to settle it and move on.

Isn't it interesting?

Or I might just be afraid of accepting the pleasure when under hypnosis? Maybe this is an aspect of myself that's being magnified under hypnosis? 

Either way, I need to always stay relaxed and truly accept the pleasure. I should remember that it's okay to do that, especially because it's Shibby!!! Only Shibby now, anyway!

I might have to factor in the fact that I’m generally less aroused now and I’m listening for relaxing mostly.

But I believe in the power of the mind wholeheartedly.

I want to copy and paste that pleasure onto my HFO experiences with Shibby. I want that to happen safely.

But even if it doesn't eventually happen, I’m already very happy with the sensations I get from my HFO experiences. I can let it go.

Pleasure is what you define it to be after all.